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cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby Yamarx1 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:04 pm

I was thinking of trying this and was wondering how hard of a job and or comments, suggestions or hints on how I should do this. I have the Haynes manual and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard but would like someones opinion that has done it before. The local Yamaha dealer told me $300 to the job and I'm thinking for $300 I should give it a shot.

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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby shredex » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:28 pm

two bottle method, look it up. its not hard...costs ya like $5 in materials and is about 10 min job if your fast.
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Postby kilika2 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:44 pm

Cleaning is easy, takes about 3 hours your fist time. Also helps to understand all the innards when talking to others. I have a good from the archives if you need it.

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Postby trifgeorge » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:39 am

shredex wrote:two bottle method, look it up. its not hard...costs ya like $5 in materials and is about 10 min job if your fast.

I did the two bottle device, but how do you use it? I mean in which order do you sync the carbs? Someone said that you sync 1with 2, than 3 with 4, and then you sync 1-2 with 3-4. That last step with 1-2 and 3-4 is what I don't understand.
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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby kilika2 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:12 am

The 1-2 3-4 is exactly how it sounds. The ports where you did 1 and 2. Put one tube on the 2nd carb. And the port where you did 3 and 4. Put the other on carb 3. It's the same principal as math. If A=B AND C=D AND B=C THEN A,B,C, and D are equal. Except not really because you are getting the carbs to pull the same not so much being the same amount of vacuum. Yeah after writing that it doesn't make much sense. Sorry. But The ports where you did 1 and 2. Put one tube on the 2nd carb. And the port where you did 3 and 4. Put the other on carb 3. is the important part.

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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby Yamarx1 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:21 am

kilika2 wrote:Cleaning is easy, takes about 3 hours your fist time. Also helps to understand all the innards when talking to others. I have a good from the archives if you need it.

Chris


Where or what is it under so I can take a look at it, Thanks.

Shannon

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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby trifgeorge » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:08 am

kilika2 wrote:The 1-2 3-4 is exactly how it sounds. The ports where you did 1 and 2. Put one tube on the 2nd carb. And the port where you did 3 and 4. Put the other on carb 3. It's the same principal as math. If A=B AND C=D AND B=C THEN A,B,C, and D are equal. Except not really because you are getting the carbs to pull the same not so much being the same amount of vacuum. Yeah after writing that it doesn't make much sense. Sorry. But The ports where you did 1 and 2. Put one tube on the 2nd carb. And the port where you did 3 and 4. Put the other on carb 3. is the important part.

Chris.

got it!!! thanks! :headbang:
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Complete custom made tail with custom made rear seat
Led front and rear signals and tail light
Custom fiberglass electrics box
R6 Voltage regulator
Custom made rearset hangers
Custom made A123 LiFePO4 battery
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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby kilika2 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:10 pm

Yamarx1 wrote:
kilika2 wrote:Cleaning is easy, takes about 3 hours your fist time. Also helps to understand all the innards when talking to others. I have a good from the archives if you need it.

Chris


Where or what is it under so I can take a look at it, Thanks.

Shannon



Well it was easy to find at the archives but I haven't been there in a while and now it's moved down in the thread body. But I went to fzr 600 and looked at the ultimate carb thread. Sorry I don't have more for you but I worked both jobs today and just now got home to do some homework.

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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby shredex » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:27 am

trifgeorge wrote:I did the two bottle device, but how do you use it? I mean in which order do you sync the carbs? Someone said that you sync 1with 2, than 3 with 4, and then you sync 1-2 with 3-4. That last step with 1-2 and 3-4 is what I don't understand.



Ye be a visual learner like me.
here, I make this for you
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You sync 1 & 2 together to make them one section, then you sync 3 & 4 to make them another section, then you sync the two sections together to create one big section.
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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby smokinbunta » Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:37 pm

ok...im completely confused here...but i think im gonna have to look this up and try to do it...


o....what size hoses would i need?

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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby kilika2 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:27 pm

1/4 Id and 3/8 od is what I got. 2 bucks at lowes. You'll need some zip ties to get them to stay snug on whatever you use as the adapters to go into the carb boots. I suggest going to oreilly's and getting some 6mm grease fittings ($2.19) and drilling out the ball bearings on the inside of them.

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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby sweekster » Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:48 pm

Use .045 mig welding tips in the intake manifolds (aka carb boots). Acts as the needed restrictor and fits the hose without zip ties and doesn't need drilling.
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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby kilika2 » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:26 pm

Sure if you want to do it the easy way. ;)
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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby trifgeorge » Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:55 am

shredex wrote:
trifgeorge wrote:I did the two bottle device, but how do you use it? I mean in which order do you sync the carbs? Someone said that you sync 1with 2, than 3 with 4, and then you sync 1-2 with 3-4. That last step with 1-2 and 3-4 is what I don't understand.



Ye be a visual learner like me.
here, I make this for you
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You sync 1 & 2 together to make them one section, then you sync 3 & 4 to make them another section, then you sync the two sections together to create one big section.

nice draw!!!! Now every noob (like me) can understand! :udaman
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GSX600F fully adjustable rebound forks
GSX600F front wheel with full floating disks
Sigma BC 1009 speedometer
YZF 600 Thundercat tank
Red Rizoma like grips
R6 pilot seat
Complete custom made tail with custom made rear seat
Led front and rear signals and tail light
Custom fiberglass electrics box
R6 Voltage regulator
Custom made rearset hangers
Custom made A123 LiFePO4 battery
KOSO mirrors
GSXR600SRAD swingarm-rear wheel assemby with 180/55/17 Michelin Pilot Power 2CT rear tyre
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Re: cleaning and synchronize of carbs

Postby smokinbunta » Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:02 pm

sweekster wrote:Use .045 mig welding tips in the intake manifolds (aka carb boots). Acts as the needed restrictor and fits the hose without zip ties and doesn't need drilling.



u lost me at the carb boot.....


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